4 Advice to Choose a power chuck
Power Chuck Selection: Choosing the Right One for Your Application.
When it comes to machine tool applications, the power chuck is a crucial component for holding and rotating workpieces. The right chuck for the job can mean the difference between precise and accurate results or poor performance and costly downtime. This article will discuss the different types of chucks available, the factors to consider when selecting, and highlight a reputable collet chuck manufacturer in India that offers a high-quality option, the UBL chuck.
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Types of Power Chucks
Several power chucks are on the market, each with advantages and disadvantages. The most common types include:
3-jaw self-centering chucks: These are easy to use and provide a good grip on round workpieces. However, they are not suitable for irregularly shaped workpieces or high-precision work.
4-jaw independent chucks: These chucks offer greater flexibility as each jaw can be adjusted independently. This allows for a better grip on irregularly shaped workpieces and higher precision work.
Collet chucks: These chucks use a collet, or sleeve, to grip the workpiece. They offer high precision and repeatability, making them suitable for precision machining.
Factors to Consider When Making a Selection
When choosing a power chuck for your application, there are several factors to consider, including:
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Workpiece size and shape: As discussed above, certain types of chucks are better suited for specific workpiece sizes and shapes.
Precision and repeatability: Depending on the precision required for your application, you may need to choose a chuck that offers higher precision and repeatability.
Speed and torque: Some chucks are better suited for high-speed and high-torque applications, while others are not.
Compatibility: Make sure your chuck is compatible with your machine tool.
The UBL Chuck: A High-Quality Option from a Reputable Collet Chuck Manufacturer in India
One reputable collet chuck manufacturer in India is United Barfeeds Limited (UBL). The UBL chuck features precision ground and hardened jaws for improved accuracy and repeatability. It is also designed with a self-centering mechanism, ensuring that the workpiece is always in the same position, even at high speeds.
When it comes to power chuck selection, its essential to consider the types available and the factors that affect the choice.
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I have a Jet JWL- lathe. It has a 1"-8 spindle nose.
Mostly I have used this lathe for turning small model rocket components like nose cones, transitions, centering rings etc. I've also turned some goblets, candle holders and a grog mug. See below for some photo's.
Most of the components I have turned thus far I have made from pine.
The biggest issue I am having is keeping the bore and o.d. of the parts concentric. Turning with the face plate just isn't accurate enough.
What chuck would you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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I use a ONEWAY talon on my 12 lathe. I like the ONEWAY profile jaws for square stock and most spindle turning.
I like the dovetail jaws for most bowls. The dovetail might give you more accurate reversing with some woods
Then vicmarc 100 would be a good choice too. Ive used this Chuck in demos and like it.
I have a vicmarc 120 for my big lathes. The hex chuck key on the Vic is much easier to use than the ONEWAY key.
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I have turned a number of components for model rockets and various pyrotechnic tooling etc. over the years. To maintain your tolerances on these items it helps to keep the item as close to the chuck or face plate as possible. Another method is to drill your center opening first and mount the piece over a tight fitting mandrel that the work piece fits snuggly over, you can then turn the outer profile of the work piece without the tailstock hindering your efforts. I usually turn a mandrel out of aluminum stock that will fit into an adjustable chuck the mandrel can have several steps and diameters to accommodate different sized work pieces. You can also turn a mandrel out of hard wood but you need to check the run-out each time you mount it on the lathe to make sure it is true between centers. Wood as tendency to expand and contract with changes in the atmosphere, you can also turn mandrels out of polymers like Delrin which is easy to turn on a wood lathe.
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It was the easiest way I could find keep everything inline.
It seems that if everything is solidly mounted to a face plate, and things are still off, you might have an alignment issue.
Have you checked alignment? If alignment is off, the drill bit will fight trying to find "true" center, and might throw other things off.
Of course, I'm in no way saying not to buy a chuck, saying that might be construed as being somewhat blasphemous...
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Starting off with a small diameter dowel will present more challenges than I care to have. I would prefer to start with a larger diameter piece of wood so that I could do the initial hollowing without worrying about the wood moving around.
Making a proper tenon is critically important. It should have a square shoulder and not bottom out in the chuck.
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As for chucks, my vote would be for one of the 3" models, like a G3, Talon, etc.
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You have many choices most of which will work.Al, would you not recommend the Oneway for bowl turning? I have 5 Vicmarc 120. My student/friend that keeps my old Union Graduate in my shop, has a Oneway. I do not like those jaws. Can he buy some dovetail jaws for the Oneway? It totally makes sense you only use it for spindle turning.
I use a ONEWAY talon on my 12 lathe. I like the ONEWAY profile jaws for square stock and most spindle turning.
I like the dovetail jaws for most bowls. The dovetail might give you more accurate reversing with some woods
Then vicmarc 100 would be a good choice too. Ive used this Chuck in demos and like it.
I have a vicmarc 120 for my big lathes. The hex chuck key on the Vic is much easier to use than the ONEWAY key.
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Hey folks I was hoping I could pick your brains in regard to chucks for wood lathes.I would buy a Vicmarc 100. Your Grandkids will be using it in 50 years. I would love to see a picture of a finished rocket! I used to fly a lot of rockets with my son. Lots of great memories... Aloha
I have a Jet JWL- lathe. It has a 1"-8 spindle nose.
Mostly I have used this lathe for turning small model rocket components like nose cones, transitions, centering rings etc. I've also turned some goblets, candle holders and a grog mug. See below for some photo's.
Most of the components I have turned thus far I have made from pine.
The biggest issue I am having is keeping the bore and o.d. of the parts concentric. Turning with the face plate just isn't accurate enough.
What chuck would you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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Al, would you not recommend the Oneway for bowl turning? I have 5 Vicmarc 120. My student/friend that keeps my old Union Graduate in my shop, has a Oneway. I do not like those jaws. Can he buy some dovetail jaws for the Oneway? It totally makes sense you only use it for spindle turning.
I have several ONEWAY Strong holds as well as the talon. They hold great for bowl turning. Dove tail jaws are available for both the talon and the stronghold. The ONEWAY jaws hold bowls really well too.
I like the dovetails more for bowls because they work better with shorter tenons. What hooked me was watching my wife turn platters with 1/8 tenons using dovetail jaws.
Also the dovetails will grip in groove near perfect circle diameter ( 48mm for the vicmarc #2)
And not leave any marks. This is real useful for lots of smaller objects when the groove is part of the final design. Can even hold a small ball with a decorative groove,
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I would buy a Vicmarc 100. Your Grandkids will be using it in 50 years. I would love to see a picture of a finished rocket! I used to fly a lot of rockets with my son. Lots of great memories... Aloha
I'm a scratch builder.. no kits. I use Open Rocket software to perform a simulation, then make a CAD drawing, then build. It's a fun, not to pricey hobby for a retired guy.
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I used to have that model lathe, and I would suggest that you check the alignment of headstock to tailstock. Put your spur drive in the headstock, and a point center in the tailstock. Slide them together and see if they match. The image of the tearout tells me that you have an alignment issue, which is common with that lathe.
Part of the issue is I don't have the lathe permanently fastened to the floor. I lift it with my 2 post lift, remove furniture dollies that are under it and then set it on the floor.
The base isn't substantial enough to keep the lathe frame from twisting. I need to build a structural steel frame for the lathe to sit on.. and maybe even fill it with concrete.
For most of my woodworking tools, I have mounted them on wheels so I can move them from the work area, back into the storage area of my barn, when I'm not using them.
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a scratch builder.. no kits. I use Open Rocket software to perform a simulation, then make a CAD drawing, then build. It's a fun, not to pricey hobby for a retired guy.
So then, you ARE a rocket scientist.
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Al, would you not recommend the Oneway for bowl turning? I have 5 Vicmarc 120. My student/friend that keeps my old Union Graduate in my shop, has a Oneway. I do not like those jaws. Can he buy some dovetail jaws for the Oneway? It totally makes sense you only use it for spindle turning.
I'm not @hockenbery but here is my two cents worth. The Oneway chucks with the profiled jaws are very well suited for bowl turning. Yes you can get dovetail jaws for the Oneway chucks, but for most bowl turning applications I prefer the profiled jaws. Except for a very precise perfect circle tenon diameter the profiled jaws provide superior holding over a wider range of tenon diameters compared to the dovetail jaws. I have both Vicmarc and Oneway chucks.
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I'm not @hockenbery but here is my two cents worth. The Oneway chucks with the profiled jaws are very well suited for bowl turning. Yes you can get dovetail jaws for the Oneway chucks, but for most bowl turning applications I prefer the profiled jaws. Except for a very precise perfect circle tenon diameter the profiled jaws provide superior holding over a wider range of tenon diameters compared to the dovetail jaws. I have both Vicmarc ans Oneway chucks.I agree with Bill. I have 10 4-jaw chucks - and except for specific instances (jaws & jaw sizes) I always reach for my Strongholds or Talons. I find them more adaptable to most applications and the easiest to use and they hold very well. The chuck keys also turn much quicker and easier than all my others (Novas, Vicmarc, Axminster, Record or Grizzly knock-off). Some might say the tighter chucks are better manufactured or engineered....but I don't find that to be the case.
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Does this look like a pretty good deal?
https://www.rockler.com/nova-30th-anniversary-g3-reversible-chuck-bundle-with-3-jaw-sets-and-case
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I would by another G3 for the price. The three sets of jaws are nice to start with also.
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As to the poor maligned Nova precision with the tommy bars, I have three and love them, contrary to popular belief, you don't need three hands and a small dog to chuck up a piece of wood...
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The only thing I'll say about the set you linked at Rockler is to shop around. If those jaws are exactly what you want/need, it is probably a decent deal. Otherwise, you are paying for jaws you may not want. I think every G3 ive seen comes with a 50mm jaw set, and some offer different combos of jaws in a bundled deal. Shop around and you may find a much better deal.
FYI, the Nova site lists all their available jaws and the max min blank that they can hold. Good reference to pick exactly what you need.
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The G3 is suitable to your current turning projects and lathe. The direction to turn the chuck key to achieve expansion or contraction is clearly labeled, and this has never been an issue to me.
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Used it for the first time today. Really happy with it, it appears it will work great for rocket parts.
I'm finding that pine just isn't strong enough for the thin walled delicate parts I am making. So I tried some ash and it worked out so much better.
Still having concentricity issues. I really need to build a better base for my lathe. The factory JET stand is just to flimsy.
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Hope you don't mind my input, in woodturning, problem solving is 50% of the fun, 90% of the time, but I could be off by a factor of 10.
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if you have two different inside diameters on either end of the work piece. Once mounted on the mandrel you can turn the outside diameter knowing
it will run true in wall thickness when you turn the outer dimension. You just need to make sure your mandrel is straight and your tail-stock is aligned
with your head stock. A dial indicator comes in handy when verifying these processes, we are talking rocket science after-all.
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A mandrel mounted in a chuck or between centers mitigates the problem on both ends of the work piece. You can also make a stepped mandrel
if you have two different inside diameters on either end of the work piece. Once mounted on the mandrel you can turn the outside diameter knowing
it will run true in wall thickness when you turn the outer dimension. You just need to make sure your mandrel is straight and your tail-stock is aligned
with your head stock. A dial indicator comes in handy when verifying these processes, we are talking rocket science after-all.
Thanks Mike. How does the part being turned attach to the mandrel?
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Usually a slip fit where you might apply a layer of masking tape over the mandrel to snug the friction fit of the work piece onto the mandrel.
You can also mist a little water into the inside of the wood cylinder which will expand the wood fibers to make it fit snugly on the mandrel.
A wrap of masking tape on the opposite end of your work piece or a band clamp tightened over the wood will compress the work piece onto the mandrel.
You could also cut a groove in the mandrel and place a proper sized O-ring in the groove which would provide a friction fit for the hollow work piece on the mandrel.
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I know you are not turning tops, but the idea's the same. Without bringing up the live center, everything stays aligned.
A lot of roads to the same destination, you could turn bushings and use a pen turners mandrel, or, if you looked up duck call making, they use an expanding mandrel. Ring makers have their own style mandrel.
This mandrel used a friction fit, once you drill your through hole in the part, the mandrel is turned to fit. Your part is turned with no live center support, so it can't be pushed out of alignment, and everything stays concentric. The tenon is important, make a good tenon. Sneak up on the fit, tape is a last resort. Sharp tools, clean cuts.
Remember, it's a journey. This is "a" way, not "the" way...
Parts and pieces Tenon Assembled, with favorite chuck...
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This is what happens when you never throw anything away...
John, Usually a slip fit where you ....
Thanks for taking the time to explain this..and Clifton, the photo's are great. Much appreciated.
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When's launch time?
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I use the jam fit mandrel technique for throwing tops. Mine are not as classy as someone we know but fun none the less...
It was the easiest way I could find keep everything inline.
It seems that if everything is solidly mounted to a face plate, and things are still off, you might have an alignment issue.
Have you checked alignment? If alignment is off, the drill bit will fight trying to find "true" center, and might throw other things off.
Of course, I'm in no way saying not to buy a chuck, saying that might be construed as being somewhat blasphemous...
No one beats the tops that Jon Sauer makes : https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hm-mlDwid/?igshid=8kro5qrtiwuj.
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That looks like success to me... The more you turn, the more you'll tweak things to fit your needs. You may even come up with something completely different, but this sure looks like a good start.
When's launch time?
Good question. This rocket is slated to ride a sled I have designed that runs on a wooden track.
I still need to build the track.. and the sled.. and do some testing of the sled itself.
It's a fun hobby, costs are pretty low the way I do it. For me the build is more fun than the launch.
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Make sure you check the run-out on your wood mandrel each time you use it, you may need to mark the position on the chuck and the mandrel so it seats
properly each time you use it. Aluminum or steel mandrels are the best materials if you plan on making multiple components from the mandrel, you will have
repeatable success with the tolerance and accuracy of a metal mandrel.
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Delrin plastic can be turned on a wood lathe easily and will hold its shape, wood will change its shape from changes in humidity and temperature over time.
Make sure you check the run-out on your wood mandrel each time you use it, you may need to mark the position on the chuck and the mandrel so it seats
properly each time you use it. Aluminum or steel mandrels are the best materials if you plan on making multiple components from the mandrel, you will have
repeatable success with the tolerance and accuracy of a metal mandrel.
Thanks Mike! I did mark the jaw locations on the mandrel... then took it out, reinserted it and checked the run-out with a dial indicator. It's pretty arid where we live... cactus growing in the yard... hopefully that will help cut down on any warping... time will tell.
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