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Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

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Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

jplay

(Structural)

(OP)

24 Jan 17 22:58

How far do we need to stay away from the tendons? Is it the edge distance specified by the anchor manufacturer or is it specified by ACI?

RE: Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

KootK

(Structural)

24 Jan 17 23:07

I know of no formal guidelines. For the tendons, I think that you just need to avoid contact. For the anchors, I guess you'd need to give some thought as to what the concrete voids created by the tendons do to your presumed breakout cones.

I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.

RE: Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

Trenno

(Structural)

25 Jan 17 03:16

100mm to be sure, to be sure.

If you're using post installed anchors, meaning the slab has been cast, the PT tendons will be hidden and their exact location only revealed by things like GPR, even then there may be some discrepancy.



RE: Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

Teguci

(Structural)

25 Jan 17 14:41

I usually approach with the question, how far away from the tendons can the design accommodate? I've always called for an inspector to x-ray and mark the surface. Then, I usually spec a 6" offset from the nearest tendon. I never design for anchors into the bottom of beams.

Consider, if anything touches a tendon, it's game over. The tendon is compromised, the slab will probably now be deficient and repairs to tendons are expensive and never leave the slab as good as it was. If we are talking about unbounded, you could even be looking at an explosive failure, requiring, if lucky, a change of pants and a long stay at the nearby bar.

RE: Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

dik

(Structural)

25 Jan 17 15:27

I usually use 6" min as a guide... don't want to get too close.

Dik

RE: Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

jplay

(Structural)

(OP)

25 Jan 17 17:59

Thank for the input guys. They are definitely getting the tendons xrayed. I need to request some existing drawings to determine if they are bonded or unbonded, I believe they are unbonded due to previous site photographs but design documents tell the story I want to know.

RE: Post installed anchors in post tension concrete

Ingenuity

(Structural)

25 Jan 17 20:32

Quote (Teguci)

Consider, if anything touches a tendon, it's game over. The tendon is compromised, the slab will probably now be deficient and repairs to tendons are expensive and never leave the slab as good as it was. If we are talking about unbounded, you could even be looking at an explosive failure, requiring, if lucky, a change of pants and a long stay at the nearby bar.


The "explosive failure" is a bit of an urban legend, IMO. Granted, when a unbonded tendon is cut/severed it releases its elastic energy suddenly, but often with only a small exit of the strand tail from the stressing-end pocket, or nothing at all, so maybe a intermediate 'loop-failure' at top surface or soffit, with resulting concrete spall.

If an anchorage zone is being chipped out by a contractor, then an 'explosive failure' will likely occur, posing considerable safety issues to the operator and those in close proximity.

Here is a dead-end anchorage that was cored last month - drilled half-depth through the monostrand anchorage, one wedge, and the 7-wire strand released suddenly. Strand projected from the opposing live-end by about 3". Tendon was 50' long.








OP: X-ray is considerably more expensive than GPR scanning (about 5x in my area), and whilst it does give superior images, its cost and safety issues have resulted in that most concrete imaging today utilize GPR. however, GPR needs to undertaken by those experienced with it use and who have knowledge of the structural framing system too. There are considerable numbers of operators who drop $20k on a GPR system and 'sell' themselves as scanning experts, with little or no understanding of structural reinforcement systems.

Also, your 'design documents' may not be too helpful - they may give you how many kips of PT, and some high and low point drapes, and if unbonded - but to get a better appreciation of the PT layout you will need the PT shop drawings - and they can be very difficult to come by, especially for older structures.

The "explosive failure" is a bit of an urban legend, IMO. Granted, when a unbonded tendon is cut/severed it releases its elastic energy suddenly, but often with only a small exit of the strand tail from the stressing-end pocket, or nothing at all, so maybe a intermediate 'loop-failure' at top surface or soffit, with resulting concrete spall.If an anchorage zone is being chipped out by a contractor, then an 'explosive failure' will likely occur, posing considerable safety issues to the operator and those in close proximity.Here is a dead-end anchorage that was cored last month - drilled half-depth through the monostrand anchorage, one wedge, and the 7-wire strand released suddenly. Strand projected from the opposing live-end by about 3". Tendon was 50' long.OP: X-ray is considerably more expensive than GPR scanning (about 5x in my area), and whilst it does give superior images, its cost and safety issues have resulted in that most concrete imaging today utilize GPR. however, GPR needs to undertaken by those experienced with it use and who have knowledge of the structural framing system too. There are considerable numbers of operators who drop $20k on a GPR system and 'sell' themselves as scanning experts, with little or no understanding of structural reinforcement systems.Also, your 'design documents' may not be too helpful - they may give you how many kips of PT, and some high and low point drapes, and if unbonded - but to get a better appreciation of the PT layout you will need the PT shop drawings - and they can be very difficult to come by, especially for older structures.

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Post-Tension Concrete: History, How It Works, Pros & Cons

Post-tension concrete may be a mythical method for some contractors.

However, some projects can greatly benefit from this prestressing method.

Additionally, concrete contractors should implement post-tensioning in a variety of situations.

This article will cover post-tension concrete&#;s what, when, how, and why.

 

What Is Post-Tension Concrete?

 

Post-tensioning is a method of prestressing concrete. Prestressing concrete is when concrete has added compression internally. Doing so counteracts the external loads that will be placed on it.

Post-tensioning adds reinforcement and strength to the concrete with tensioning steel rods.

As the name implies, this prestressing happens on-site after the concrete has fully dried.

Now, many people understandably mistake it for pre-tensioning.

Pre-tensioning is when the steel strands are tensioned before placing them into the concrete. This step usually occurs during precast concrete construction.

 

History of the Post-Tension Method

 

A French man, Eugene Freyssinet, often receives credit for being the first to use post-tension concrete in for a marine terminal.

It wasn&#;t until that the construction of the Walnut Lane Bridge in Philadelphia relied on post-tensioning.

These days, this method is so popular there&#;s an entire institute dedicated to advancing the industry &#; The Post-Tensioning Institute.

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How Does Post-Tensioning Work?

 

To understand how post-tensioning works, you need to learn about the behaviors of the two materials involved:

Concrete and steel.

Concrete is strongest when it is under compression. Meanwhile, steel is strongest under tension.

Post-tensioning combines both materials in their strongest states.

The result?

A concrete slab that can resist much higher loads than traditional concrete structures.

Who would have thought reinforcing steel was the best way to create reinforced concrete?

Adding rebar alone can improve the durability of concrete under tensile stress. Yet, post-tensioning improves that while adding strength to the concrete through compression.

 

How To Install Post-Tensioning

 

To install a post-tensioning system, you need specific tools while following a specific series of steps.

 

Equipment Needed

 

A hydraulic jack is the only piece of working equipment you&#;ll need on your job site to implement post-tensioning.

The size and strength of the concrete members are being prestressed. Post-tensioning involves the elongation of very high-strength steel.

A powerful hydraulic stressing jack will pull on the prestressing steel without causing a malfunction.

 

Materials Needed

 

There are several materials involved in post-tensioning structural concrete:

 

1. Tendons

 

Post-tension cables &#; also known as tendons &#; are made from a seven-wire braided steel cable. These tendons are very strong and can yield up to 243,000 psi.

There are two different types of tendons.

A bonded tendon uses grout to permanently bond the tendon to the sheathing.

With an unbonded tendon, grease is used, and the tendon is free to move within the sheathing.

 

2. Tubes or Ducts

 

To protect the tendons from corrosion from the water in the poured concrete, it must be placed inside a tube.

These can be made from thin sheet metal pipes, plastic ducts, or tubing. The seams should overlap to prevent any seepage from occurring.

 

3. Anchors

 

Anchors are vital in applying tensile forces to the tendons while keeping the tensile forces in place.

These devices attach to the tendons and anchor them into concrete on one end while the anchor on the other side attaches to the jack.

 

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There are a few steps to follow to create a post-tensioned concrete slab.

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  3. The concrete is allowed to cure to about 75% of its drying time, which is about 23 days.
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For example, a ½-inch 270 strand should be stressed to 33,000 pounds, according to PTI.

Lastly, the steel tendons are anchored into place, the ends are trimmed, and grout is placed into the anchor pocket to secure them.

 

The Benefits of Using Post-Tension Concrete

 

You may wonder if all this extra work is worth the effort. Let&#;s discuss the benefits you can reap using this method on your concrete floors.

 

Design Freedom

 

Post-tensioning gives architects more design freedom. The method allows for fewer columns and thinner slabs to support the rest of the structure. After all, the concrete slabs are now beast-mode strong.

Post-tensioning also allows architects and engineers to create structures with dynamic designs.

 

Reduced Floor-to-Floor Height

 

Post-tensioning also saves floor-to-floor height in commercial buildings. This allows for more floors to rent out without changing the building height. Not only does this save money, but it also provides the opportunity to make more money as well.

This reduced floor-to-floor height also translates into cost savings for:

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Think about all the savings that could occur when you cut the height of a building. Elevator shafts are shorter, requiring less material. The building facade will also require less material.

Maintenance costs will be much more efficient, too. Heating and cooling a smaller building is cheaper. Insurance will be cheaper.

In fact, there are many often forgotten savings that come with a reduced floor-to-floor height.

 

Lower Risk of Concrete Repairs

 

Post-tensioning also lowers the chances of cracking due to shrinkage and improves the durability of the concrete. So you&#;ll see far fewer deflections and experience increased service load capability.

 

Lessen Dead Load and Reinforcement Cost

 

There&#;s also another way that post-tension concrete saves money:

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Faster Project Completion

 

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This benefit also results in the follow-on trades and project completion happening faster.

 

Pros and Cons of Post-Tension Concrete

 

Most projects would benefit from the use of post-tensioning. Some would especially benefit. But, of course, there are also some rare occasions when post-tensioning may not be the best course of action.

Let&#;s talk about the pros and cons of this method now.

 

When Post-Tensioning Is a Pro

 

There are times when post-tensioning can bolster your concrete structure and is a no-brainer, and times when it&#;s a must.

Below is a list of scenarios that should implement post-tensioning in their concrete construction process to ensure a successful project, as mentioned in this publication from PTI.

 

Wind and Seismic Resistance

 

We know that concrete can withstand an extreme load through direct compression. But it&#;s also very susceptible when undergoing lateral forces.

Wind and seismic forces can be catastrophic for some concrete structures.

Using post-tensioned slabs provides the reinforcement necessary to resist these powerful lateral forces.

 

Skyscrapers

 

The taller a building gets, the greater the need for lighter construction.

Post-tensioning makes taller skyscrapers possible by allowing for less material needed for each level. This reduces the dead load on each of the lower levels.

Conventional reinforced concrete is much heavier. That said, it also limits the building&#;s height before it&#;s too heavy to support its weight.

 

Curvilinear Geometries

 

At times, the vision inside an architect&#;s creative brain won&#;t translate inside an engineer&#;s logical brain.

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The ability to use post-tensioned concrete slabs made this process much more feasible. To this day, it&#;s the most widely accepted method to create these architectural works of art.

 

Longer Spans

 

Creating a long span inside a concrete building once called for many pillars, columns, and thicker concrete slabs.

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Elevated Slabs

 

Post-tensioning distributes the weight of the concrete to help prevent any sagging in elevated slabs.

 

When Post-Tensioning Is a Con

 

Post-tensioning will always increase the strength of a concrete slab. Yet, the methodology behind this innovation can make it disadvantageous on rare occasions.

These include:

 

Future Renovations

 

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Therefore, if you&#;re constructing a commercial building with hopes of a redesign later on, prepare for disappointment.

Of course, you can work around this if you plan for this redesign in the original design, leaving room for future knockouts or openings.

 

When You Have No Access to a Professional

 

Post-tensioning concrete is a complicated and precise process that requires skilled labor.

 

If you don&#;t have professionals with experience using this method, it&#;s better not to use it at all.

For post-tensioning to work, it must meet very precise specifications. The forces applied and the machinery used can also be very dangerous in the hands of an amateur.

 

Mistakes to Avoid When Post-Tensioning

 

When done properly, post-tensioning is a fool-proof engineering technique. But some mistakes can occur along the way.

To ensure that you get the most out of your post-tensioning efforts, avoid these common mistakes:

 

1. Don&#;t Forget To Account for Restraints

 

In many structures, you&#;ll have restraints to the compression of the concrete. These include walls, columns, and other structures in place.

You&#;ll need to consider these when positioning your post-tension tendons.

 

2. Not Prioritizing Your Finishing

 

After you&#;ve pulled the tendons and anchored them, it&#;ll leave behind some strand tails that require cutting.

However, these ends require a bit more work to finish the process. The end caps must be installed, cleaned from debris, and filled with mortar to seal the tendons.

 

3. Overbalancing Your Dead Loads

 

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Using post-tensioning in place of proper design will cause overbalancing. It&#;s not like rebar, where you can just add more and more. It requires precise amounts.

 

4. Relying on 3D Software for Design

 

Finite element software is helpful in the design process with post-tensioning. Yet, a PT professional must check all designs for correct calculations before construction begins.

As this article pointed out, post-tensioning is an engineering innovation that can and is applicable in various projects to improve the integrity of the construction further.

This method can improve the quality of your project. But it can also save you money, time, and maintenance and provide more freedom in your design process.

Here at FMP, we&#;ve successfully implemented post-tensioning in many of our client&#;s projects, and we&#;ve seen first-hand the benefits of that choice.

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We&#;d love to discuss how post-tensioning can improve your construction project. Contact us today!

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